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Panelat Unsound 2022 · on Tuesday, 2022-12-06· [security]

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Group discusses concrete next steps to run Unsound yearly or biennially and form a standing program committee, plus specific outreach targets: verified compiler people, Iris users, Daphne adopters. Debate centers on provable failures: Java/Scala initialization bugs, examples that break contracts via subtyping, and whether step-indexing as a partial fix or Scala initialization checker actually resolves them. Practical risks include perverse incentives in industry and attackers slipping verified-but-broken code into real projects.

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chapters (9)

  1. 0:00Introduction
  2. 3:31Organizing verification community
  3. 5:18Venue and inclusivity
  4. 7:01Perverse incentives
  5. 10:39Reporting unsoundness
  6. 14:09Verification tool challenges
  7. 15:57Automation vs foundational work
  8. 17:01Tool limitations
  9. 18:27Q&A

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